Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). This is all BS.She did it. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. Blasczyk said she escaped from East Germany as a teenager when the country was under Communist leadership. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. Jenkins' family left the courtroom without comment on Friday, but they hugged each other once the sentence was ordered. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. Why would the LAPD destroy the evidence, Patricias sister Arletta and other family members still ask to this day. A federal jury found Yassein Abdulfatah Said, 59, guilty on one count of conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest, one count of concealing a person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. And she will have to answer eventually. She is a D-FW native with a B.A. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. So, lets take your response one step at a time. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. I dont think so. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! Pal stays true. You murdered your girls," she said. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. We've received your submission. Jerry Browns office. First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. Dame Patricia said she was "deeply saddened" to hear of her former co-star's death. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. He was happy. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. Just saying. The Free Patricia Rorrer page points to a sliver of a fingernail found at the murder site that didnt come from either Patricia or Joann. FBI agents watched them deliver grocery bags to the house and then followed them to a shopping center in Southlake where they dumped trash from the home, prosecutors said. THE COPS SET HER UP. She embraced spontaneity and diligence. Why not question some of this evidence? Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). Thats all for this post. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. Claps! Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. Liesbeth Powers/The She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. SHAME ON THEM. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. In pleading guilty, Islam Said admitted that evidence proved he committed the crimes charged in the superseding indictment filed in November 2020. Some people are just monsters. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Keep up your delusions. Wow. There are a number of issues in the case, Kelley said in a letter to his associate, Christopher Darden, including the competency of counsel, prosecutorial misconduct and, of course, compelling legal error by the court.. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. A Texas father one of the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives wanted for the slayings of his two teen daughters was busted after more than 12 years on the run, the federal law enforcement agency announced. They are total bs. Meticulous primping. And your appraisal of McIntyre is 100% spot on. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. However, Said never called 911. One on one? All that remains is the conclusion of an appeal that Prue's husband Allen Prue has made to the Vermont Supreme Court following his October conviction in Jenkins' murder. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. (A good point. No charmed life. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Through that testing, the elderly patient was confirmed to be the same woman locally known in Pittsburgh as a street preacher called The Sparrow who vanished and left her family flummoxed. Search is on. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. Or did they? Have a tip we should know? Owens called him "the devil" and said he deserved a punishment much tougher than life in prison. No explanation given. So the issue that he was picking up men in downtown Los Angeles was irrelevant to the case although that couldve been a lead to the killer. But none of those charges ever stuck. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. If Patricia drove it back from the murder scene after she shot Joann and then beat her to death, luminal would have lit up the interior. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. The first rule of a murder is motive. Your email address will not be published. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. You know whats interesting? The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. So would judge and jury say. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. Contact Elizabeth Murray at 651-4835 or emurray@freepressmedia.com. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. I hope she rots in hell. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. And NOBODY saw her at all? I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a fine of $2,000. Judge Richard T. Fields will be presiding over the case and Public Defender Ruby Ramirez will be representing Patricia for the Riverside County Public Defenders Office. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. The witness, Traupman, who on several occasions attempted to have his evidence recorded was severely manhandled out of the police station and so badly beaten, he had to be hospitalised. In 2016, Oklahoma police arrested the mother, Patricia Spann, now 44, and her 26-year-old daughter, Misty Velvet Dawn Spann, charging both of them with incest. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. Puny policy. Nobody said bodies were intact. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Thanks for contacting us. Stable situation. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. Well of course it is, so you overstated your opinion as though you know it to be fact, thus the jury and others were wrong; ironic because youre quick to complain that others are much to sure of *their* opinion shes guilty. By clicking Sign Up, I confirmthat I have read and agreeto the Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. Nope. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. Allen Prue told police he and his wife "wanted somebody they could play with," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren has said. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. And I hope I can get down to see her., Were very thankful to know that Patty is alive and well, Smith added. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! Browns downtown Los Angeles office demanding that he grant Patricia Wright clemency. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. Yes, documentaries probably do misrepresent evidence, and many may respond to that misrepresentation, but beneath that is jury judgment, and while courts can be wrong they are usually right. Marcelin said the detectives, referring to Patricia Wright, asked, Dont you want that [expletive] off the street?. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Until next time, cheers. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. "It's been an honor and privilege to stand up and be an advocate for Sarah. Thank you Kerry. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. Patricia Cole, a veteran copy editor whose sharp eye, quick wit and kind heart made her a cherished colleague at NPR and other news outlets, died on Friday at age 46, Thank you and well said. I had never been in jail before and I wasnt allowed to go outside. "Justice would have been the Irving Police Department doing their job," defense attorney Joe Patton said during closing arguments. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. This is the most ridiculous take ever! A Texas man who carried out the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more, pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court to a 90-count indictment, including 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Exactly Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. Theres speculation and theres lies period. She also will never get to see them get married. Its totally irrelevant. Still, no good leads materialized. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. Im dying. Irving Police Chief Jeff Spivey hailed authorities for pursuing justice in the case for more than a decade. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. You people are fighting a losing cause! Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. He tried to claim someone else murdered them and that the night his daughters were killed someone was following them. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. Conflicting versions. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. Yaser Said's ex-wife Patricia Owens gives victim statement after guilty verdict Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! Her mother was married to my uncle. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. Phone records dont lie.) Have you read the book? As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. He says he "feared for his life" and left the girls in the cab alive as he ran away. What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. They broke up in 1993. Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Families to Amend Californias Three Strikes (FACTS) and Change.org are among the many groups that have been working to get Patricia Wright released from prison. Weak wages. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace.
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